wachovia to buy morgan stanley???? jesus washington mutual to auction itself off this is unbelievable

okay that's some crazy shit

i guess things can get much worse at this pt

they announced a better than anticipated quarter, but investors are scared and these short sellers are trying to make a buck (honestly, I don't know how MS could have announced such a report since Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were their major clients driving their ABS business) The financial sector will be unstable...I dunno how personalities internally will deal

MS got advisory fees for FNMA and FHLMC as well as for Verizon, Rio Tinto, etc. They also had time games.

weird when I was in FI the ABS group was always doing deals with FNMA & FHLMC.

that's what bear stearns reported back in december & january, yet they still folded. even remember reports of that from wamu back in may & june, and they're on the fringe too. how is sachs in line? i must have missed something there

Cost of funding escalated for brokerages. Their spread is x bp over tsy. Their access to capital and cost of borrowing escalated hugely.

sachs would be the last to be affected they stated yesterday there will be no merger in their future.

really? I had no idea. then again mack is too proud...

i wonder if foreign investors are short selling to destroy the US econ?

I've never heard of these posters. are they hot?

no they reek of desperation

how much MS stock do you have in your xK? 'cause it's worth a lot less today than it was yesterday...still if there's a deal it will recover some value.

*wipes brow* Good , KJ! :D *is proud of you*

:-) I hated that firm...kind of glad to see my desk decimated

LOL

Im not even sure I understand it all. But it scares me.

It's weird to see these financial powerhouses crumble so easily...If a bank can, then a company like GM or Dell who haven't been doing well may disappear

Yeah I am not even sure how to think of what I am feeling. I have no clue. But my company has been going down and we are struggling. But to see these giant places go down as well, thats scary.

are people nervous at work?

Holy crap! Sachs? It's over. The whole economy is going to crumble.

GS stock plummeted today... the powers that be must be freaking out

Yup.

I wonder when they all met at the Fed on saturday if they had an inkling the markets would react this way..I mean all their salaries in stock!!! For them, it IS MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKET!

I wonder what the Hedge guys are saying. Man, I can't believe this.

our company had about $x-$x mil worth of equity sitting in lehman's for a couple years and we moved that shit out so fast soon as the news of bears, citi & lehman broke out in the spring. shit's damn crazy.

*applauds your insight* Well done!

thank'y we have it at like a x/x split between jp morgan & hsbc, for now.

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